The last couple of days I have received an email from a person apparently trying to prove to me that:
“ Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. “ [1Co 13:8-10]
Means the supernatural Gifts of the Holy Spirit are not for today. The main thought process here is that the “which is perfect is come” is the Bible, thus when the Bible was compiled and I guess canonized, the supernatural Gifts and the Holy Spirit ceased. There is only one that is perfect and that is Yeshua (Jesus). Some contend that Yeshua is the Word of God and thus the Bible represents Him and again, that is what was perfect has come. This is clearly Yeshua and refereeing to His return when we no longer need any of these supernatural Gifts. Is it not obvious we need the Gifts more today than ever? When Yeshua is here there is no need for them, they have no reason to exist after that point, but until then they are needed.
It would be great if these people would spend a bit more time seeking God’s face instead of trying to convince everyone that the Gifts they have experienced are not for today. Come on, it is time to wake up and understand God has much more for us than just the Gifts listed in the Bible, He is a great God and has wonderful things for those that have faith in Him and expect from Him.
There is a common ploy to justify the Gifts not being for today just because we do not see people cleaning out hospitals nor someone using the Gift of Tongues to travel and speak to people they do not know.
We cannot base our perceptions of what God has available to those that believe simply because we or others do not receive after simply asking for them. We need to base them on Scripture and not try to bend Scripture to make excuses. God said if you have the faith as unto a mustard seed, we can do mighty things, but remember a mustard seed is small at the start and must be grown, so is faith, it starts out small, everyone given an equal portion and we continue to grow it. When we twist Scripture to make excuses, we weaken our faith.
As I mentioned to this person, any lack of any Gift is not due to the Gifts being done away with, it is simply that most people have "done away" with their faith in God, they have turned to the comforts of this life instead of a constant seeking for God in their lives. When people wake up and hunger for God as they do for their worldly possession, they will see God move mightily as commonly happens in third world countries.
It would be hard to image how many hours people of today actually spend in study (reading the Bible and praying, not just listening to others voice their opinions of what the Scriptures mean) and seeking God’s face. Most likely, it would be a small number if at all for most people. Many expect God to jump to action when they do not spend time with Him!
I personally believe most ministries today spend far more time on promoting or doing their ministry than being with God. The Apostles wanted to spend all their time studying and seeking God’s face, that is why they elected Stephen to take case of the daily stuff (book of Acts), they knew the only way to stay in the power of God is to stay hunger for God.
My first direct experience with the Gifts of the Holy Spirit was when I first became a believer. Coming from a Pentecostal background I knew Christians were suppose to be able to speak in Unknown Tongues. When I was saved though, I did not accept doctrine just because someone told me it was a certain way, I consumed the Bible in large quantities along with prayer and worship every day. Many things I had been told, I doubted until I found Scripture to support the views. Some did not exactly work out as I had been taught, while others were right on the money.
Anyway, I knew I should be able to experience the event that many call the “Baptism of the Holy Spirit”. I read the Bible, listened to and read about everything I could get on the topic. Talk about a confused person, it was hard to find more than a couple that would agree on anything.
I spent nine months at about ten hours per day seeking God’s face for this Filing of the Holy Spirit that so many talked about. I even fasted once for many days, but no answers. For a long time I was thinking something that should take me over and make me like a robot, something that I could not control, sort of a zombie when God wanted to use me.
During that nine months times, I saw several people receive that which I was searching to find, but not for me. I could have easily justified it is only for some and not for everyone and left it at that, but I could not give up.
My grandmother (the spiritual elder of the family) said it was simple, just yield to the Holy Spirit. Yield? Yield? That is what I thought I was trying to do, even the time I thought I would fast until I received, yeah, that is it, I am trying to yield so I will go without food until I get it. God must have sighed and said “will this guy ever learn”.
One night when I went to bed I read and quoted to God:
“And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.” [Mar 16:17-18] ( I know some modern translations like to leave these out but some of the oldest manuscripts did also contain them)
I told Him I did not understand anything, I just know this is what He said and that I would believe it.
Later in the AM hours, I woke up, opened my mouth and began to pray in my Spiritual prayer language. This has been part of my life ever since that day back in 1990.
After this experience, I realized many people that I had read, did not have a clue what they were talking about, or was just confused about how to teach. It is simply that when you become born again (you accept Yeshua - Jesus as your Lord and Savior, repent of your sins and confess Him before men) the Holy Spirit comes in to dwell. The Gifts are simply manifested as the Holy Spirit flows out through your flesh. Not a lot of time to go into detail here about the triune nature of man and God, and how the Holy Spirit as rivers of living water, flows from within, but that will be in a later post.
Anyway, the one thing someone else told me that truly made sense after my experience was my grandmother, who said “it is simple, speaking in unknown tongues is when your spirit needs to say something to God that your mind cannot express”. Volumes of knowledge in that one statement!
Some look at the Gift of Tongues as only to speak in known languages that you do already know, but the following shows not only of man’s languages but those of angels:
“Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.” [1Co 13:1]
and
“ Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God” [Rom 8:26-27]
and
“He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself;…” [1Co 14:4]
It is not just to give a message but for our prayer life. There is a Gift of tongues for the congregation during service and also for each individual’s prayer life to allow our spirit to talk with God directly without out feeble minds getting in the way. This is another topic however that will need more to be posted at a later date.
I have also seen the Gifts of Prophecy and Healing happen in others. My wife has experienced first had supernatural healing along with others I know.
So, those of you that may not understand the Gifts are for today, I say read Acts and do what they first did, seek God’s face until you receive, you will if you continue, yield to Him and do not faint, I am living proof!
For those that want to argue, it is best to be done somewhere else, you have come too late to convince me of anything, the Scriptures are clear.